Friday, August 29, 2008
Into the Asylum
Recent posts steeped in foreboding aside, we still at the very least have a couple sets in the pipeline, warts and all, with the next of them being another DC set, Arkham Asylum, due October 22.
Official previews (written in advance by the set's designer, Seth Johnson, before he left the company) are set to start next week. This week, however, someone appears to have leaked the main set list, complete with numbering and experience level. The holder of the info's being cagey about details, though. For instance, he knows the point totals for each of the pieces, but is making a short-term contest of that.
Still, I'll present the info that's known. (Edit: A list with the point values for each piece is at the end of the post.)
Here's the named set list, complete with REVU status for each. I've provided the breaks for rarity levels, too.
It's an... interesting list. If one's not a fan of the Legion of Superheroes and/or up on recent arcs involving the Green Lantern/Sinestro Corps, etc., there are likely to be quite a few "Huh? Who?!" moments -- I must confess this is the first set where I found I had to Wiki more than one or two for clarification. Though it's over the top, I've included reference links for all but a few which were either too generic or vague.
I definitely like the rise in number of generics - pieces a theme player would have reason to hold onto multiples of.
COMMONS
001 Veteran WHITE MARTIAN (generic)
002 Rookie MANHUNTER (We don't know if these are the human versions or the robotic ones.)
003 Experienced MULTIPLEX (effectively a generic)
004 Rookie THE QUESTION
005 Experienced FLORONIC MAN
006 Veteran GOTHAM CITY DETECTIVE (generic, with a Crispus Allen LE)
007 Veteran TWO-FACE
008 Rookie STREET THUG (a surprising generic)
009 Rookie KID DEVIL
010 Veteran GORILLA GRODD
011 Veteran THE RIDDLER
012 Veteran AMANDA WALLER
013 Rookie HUMAN BOMB
014 Experienced SCANDAL SAVAGE
015 Experienced PLASMUS
016 Rookie BATMAN
UNCOMMONS
017 Rookie MAN-BAT ASSASSIN (curious generic -- these are League of Assassin members who've been given the Man-Bat serum.)
018 Experienced SOLOMON GRUNDY
019 Unique LASHINA
020 Experienced ANARKY
021 Rookie MISS MARTIAN
022 Experienced HITMAN
023 Veteran WONDER WOMAN
024 Veteran COUNT VERTIGO
025 Unique JOHNNY SORROW
026 Experienced NIGHTSHADE
027 Experienced FIREFLY
028 Rookie ARKILLO
029 Unique PER DEGATON
030 Veteran AMON SUR
031 Experienced CAPTAIN GORDON
032 Veteran LIGHTNING LORD
RARES
033 Unique THINKER
034 Veteran ROBIN
035 Experienced GHOST FOX KILLER
036 Unique ZOOM
037 Rookie ELEMENT LAD
038 Veteran PENGUIN
039 Veteran COSMIC KING
040 Experienced DOCTOR DESTINY
041 Veteran FRANKENSTEIN
042 Experienced VENTRILOQUIST
043 Unique CALCULATOR
044 Rookie YELLOW LANTERN
045 Unique CIRCE
046 Experienced LYSSA DRAK
047 Veteran ULTRA-HUMANITE
048 Veteran BIZARRO #1
SUPER RARES
049 Veteran BLACK MANTA
050 Unique METRON
051 Veteran MAD HATTER
052 Experienced BATGIRL
053 Veteran THE TOP
054 Unique DESPERO
055 Rookie SABBAC
056 Unique THE FLASH
057 Veteran SATURN QUEEN
058 Unique CHANG TZU
059 Unique THE JOKER
060 Unique SUPERMAN PRIME
061 Unique THE CLOWN PRINCE OF CRIME (Buy It By the Brick mail-away.)
Also reportedly (see that contest link earlier in the post) the point breakdowns for these 61 pieces group as follows (Point Value: Number of clix in the set at that value):
70 : 5
55 : 4
50,68,75,90 : 3
64,72,80 : 2
19,27,30,37,40,45,47,60,61,65,66,74,76,85,88,89,97,98,99,107,115,116,120,126,130,145,149,150,157,177,195,199,248 & 318: 1
...a fairly good point spread. Looking at it another way:
1-50: 10
51-100: 36
101-150: 9
151-200: 4
201-250: 1
251-300: 0
301+: 1
...we see that this should be solid for team-building, especially within 300 pt builds, which remain a standard tournament build.
Jake Theis, current brand manager, also released a promotional article that ended with some clues about the list. At the moment I'm mostly sticking with the guesses boneyard's presented below, though I've added one or two of my own:
A character with both the Past and Future keywords - Metron or Per Dagaton
A Special Power that begins "In Contact With..." - Calculator
A classic character that Alan Moore revitalized - Floronic Man (in Swamp Thing)
A classic character that Neil Gaiman revitalized - Dr Destiny (in Sandman)
The named power "EAT THE HOSTAGES" - Gorilla Grodd
An Uncommon figure with a starting Damage value of five … and Perplex - Bizarro #1
A named power written in German - Plasmus
At least one character chosen by a Top-16 player at the HeroClix World Championships - Superman (boy) Prime (To bad they didn't make the Ace the Bathound/Streaky combo instead)
At least one character that first appeared in Charlton comics - Nightshade
At least one character with the Batman-Enemy Team Ability and the Wing Speed Symbol - Firefly/Man-Bat Assassins
A trio of villains - Saturn Queen, Lightning Lord, Cosmic King
A soldier that’s a little late for roll-call - Frankenstein (a Sevcen Soldiers of Victory reference.)
A duo figure that isn't a duo figure - Ventriloquist/Scarface
At least one Golden Age villain - Ultra-Humanite/Per Degaton
The named power "GRRRRRAGH!" - Solomon Grundy
A figure that had the shortest comic book appearance of any DC HeroClix character done to date - Yellow Lantern
The highest-point version of one of the “DC Trinity” EVER done by a full 50 points - Wonder Woman (So that should be 248 points.)
A figure with 20 Defense! - Superman Prime, the Top, Zoom, Jak Garrick or the Thinker
Edit: Below is the list with the point values for each piece attached. I lack the time to edit them into the list above.
001 WHITE MARTIAN (generic) -90
002 MANHUNTER (Paul Kirk? Mark Shaw? Robot? clone Paul Kirk? Kirk DePaul? Kate Spencer?) - 64
003 MULTIPLEX -30
004 THE QUESTION (Renee Montoya?) - 37
005 FLORONIC MAN - 47
006 GOTHAM CITY DETECTIVE (Crispus Allen?) - 27
007 TWO-FACE - 75
008 STREET THUG - 19
009 KID DEVIL - 55
010 GORILLA GRODD - 157
011 THE RIDDLER - 90
012 AMANDA WALLER - 75
013 HUMAN BOMB - 45
014 SCANDAL SAVAGE - 60
015 PLASMUS - 80
016 BATMAN (crouching on gargoyle?) - 64
017 MAN-BAT ASSASSIN - 40
018 SOLOMON GRUNDY - 115
019 LASHINA - 72
020 ANARKY - 70
021 MISS MARTIAN - 76
022 HITMAN - 61
023 WONDER WOMAN (Diana Prince) - 248
024 COUNT VERTIGO - 74
025 JOHNNY SORROW - 55
026 NIGHTSHADE - 50
027 FIREFLY - 68
028 ARKILLO - 126
029 PER DEGATON - 90
030 AMON SUR - 70
031 CAPTAIN GORDON - 50
032 LIGHTNING LORD - 89
033 THINKER - 55
034 ROBIN - 66
035 GHOST FOX KILLER - 68
036 ZOOM - 130
037 ELEMENT LAD - 70
038 PENGUIN - 70
039 COSMIC KING - 85
040 DOCTOR DESTINY - 99
041 FRANKENSTEIN (from 7 Soldiers) - 98
042 VENTRILOQUIST (w/Scarface) - 70
043 CALCULATOR (Purple costume?) - 55
044 YELLOW LANTERN (Bizarro) - 65
045 CIRCE - 149
046 LYSSA DRAK - 72
047 ULTRA-HUMANITE - 177
048 BIZARRO #1 - 199
049 BLACK MANTA - 68
050 METRON - 195
051 MAD HATTER - 75
052 BATGIRL - 50
053 THE TOP - 80
054 DESPERO - 88
055 SABBAC - 145
056 THE FLASH (Jay Garrick) - 120
057 SATURN QUEEN - 116
058 CHANG TZU (aka Egg Fu) - 107
059 THE JOKER (Straightjacket?) - 97
060 SUPERMAN PRIME - 318
BITB Clix: 061 THE CLOWN PRINCE OF CRIME - Joker escaping Arkham Asylum - 150
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You're probably right about the "trio of villains", but I was also thinking it might be Despero, Per Degaton and the Ultra Humanite, since they formed a group called the Time Stealers in Geoff Johns' Booster Gold series.
As to the set itself, I'm kind of disappointed. I'm not terribly interested in the Legion or the Sinestro Corps, so that's a bunch of figures I don't have to worry about I suppose. I would have liked a new Catwoman, and/or a new Harley Quinn (maybe one that reflects her Nightwing level agility and resistance to poisons), maybe a new Huntress. There just aren't a lot of characters I'm really excited about.
Why another Robin, when they gave us Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, and Jason Todd Robins in Crisis (I thought maybe they were makiing a Stephanie Brown Robin, though I'd prefer a new Spoiler, but judging by the box art, this is Drake again).
I am glad to see some more Suicide Squad (Waller, Count Vertigo, maybe Lashina and Multiplex as well), and there's maybe five others, but it looks like I'll be saving money, assuming this is accurate.
That Joker escaping Arkham figure does look pretty nice.
As to the set itself, I'm kind of disappointed. I'm not terribly interested in the Legion or the Sinestro Corps, so that's a bunch of figures I don't have to worry about I suppose. I would have liked a new Catwoman, and/or a new Harley Quinn (maybe one that reflects her Nightwing level agility and resistance to poisons), maybe a new Huntress. There just aren't a lot of characters I'm really excited about.
Why another Robin, when they gave us Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, and Jason Todd Robins in Crisis (I thought maybe they were makiing a Stephanie Brown Robin, though I'd prefer a new Spoiler, but judging by the box art, this is Drake again).
I am glad to see some more Suicide Squad (Waller, Count Vertigo, maybe Lashina and Multiplex as well), and there's maybe five others, but it looks like I'll be saving money, assuming this is accurate.
That Joker escaping Arkham figure does look pretty nice.
It's cool that there ends up being more than one way to answer the trio question, actually. One of the benefits of these 60-character sets.
The set list is still sinking in for me, but I understand completely how this is likely to be a less than exciting list for many of us. I have no idea how deeply I'm going to buy into this set. The real decision will come roughly a month from now.
I'm curious how much of a scenario-packed Joker that will be.
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The set list is still sinking in for me, but I understand completely how this is likely to be a less than exciting list for many of us. I have no idea how deeply I'm going to buy into this set. The real decision will come roughly a month from now.
I'm curious how much of a scenario-packed Joker that will be.
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